B-b-b-boundaries! They make your business & life go ‘round.

Or maybe things have come to a screeching halt & what you reeeally could use are some solid boundaries in your relationships to better serve you & support you in better serving others.

In this interview, I chat with Therapist for Entrepreneurs Monica Denais and we talk all about.

⚡️ Why Boundaries are a must-have for happy & healthy entrepreneurship

⚡️ How we can do better as entrepreneurs when it comes to taking care of ourselves

⚡️ How to figure out if you need a rebrand or just a brand refresh

⚡️ Recognizing & overcoming self-sabotage

⚡️ Setting & communicating boundaries with clients, with partners, & with family

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Hello, everyone and welcome. Yasmine here and today I’m so excited to kick off 21 days of business with my dear friend and colleague, Monica Denais. Monica is a mental health advocate, and a therapist for entrepreneurs. And today we’re going to be talking about self care and boundaries as an entrepreneur and as a woman in business. Hi, Monica.


Hi, thank you so much for having me. I am so excited to dive into this. I feel like it’s such a like, it’s such a talked a lot about a subject, but I feel like we still have to hear this message over and over until we’re able to create the changes for ourselves. Absolutely, absolutely. I agree with you. 100%. And I’m super excited to hear from you based on your your work and experience. And I absolutely love following you on social media. You are one of my favorite accounts to follow actually your content is absolute chefs kiss. It’s incredible. Monica have a so much yes, absolutely. Monica has a podcast called Cafe with Monica is also so so good. somewhere on this video, you’re gonna see her tag you’ll you can follow her, check out her content. But today’s conversation I’m really excited for and I would love for those that are not familiar familiar with you yet. Monica, if you could just tell us a little bit about yourself, please. Yeah, absolutely. So like you said, my name is Monica Denyse. And I’m a therapist for women entrepreneurs. Based in Dallas, Texas, I help women specifically overcome anxiety and perfectionism so they can feel bold, confident in life in business. And just like you said, I do have a podcast called Cafe with Monica and I bring other resilient entrepreneurs to discuss topics on mental health, self care, entrepreneurship, and really showing the light that, you know, we can project this idea of like we have it all together.


But it’s not always the case like that. So being able to share our stories and our entrepreneurship journeys can really help other entrepreneurs feel safe, to be vulnerable and to share their experiences. So that’s a little bit about me, and just kind of the people who I care about and love to work with.


Yes, so I am a branded website designer for female entrepreneurs. Most of my clients are high ticket coaches, they tend to do like one on one or group programs. But I do work with service providers all across the board. And so really, I started design about five years ago, really just looking to do this full timI love it. Thank you for sharing. All right. So tell us based on your experience, your research your body of work, where can we do better as entrepreneurs when it comes to taking care of ourselves? Yeah, I think, you know, I want to dive into like the specific topic of boundaries, because a lot of the times when I see clients come in, it is out of a place of I haven’t really established the necessary boundaries in order to create that balance for myself. It’s imperative that we have that because if not, we are end up feeling drained, depleted or taken advantage of even feeling victimized because we are giving our way our time and energy in ways that don’t serve us, right. So as entrepreneurs, we don’t think about that part of the emotional skills, the communication skills that are often left on the side where we’re so worried about the right funnel, the right email sequence, the right, but what about our emotional skills and our communication skills, because those are the things that you’re going to use it with your team, with any person that you start delegating things with, maybe they’re not part of your team, maybe they’re just contractors or clients when you’re starting to reach out to ideal clients. Or maybe when you don’t get that ideal client how to respond to them in a way that still feels like, okay, genuine to your values, but also sets that boundary like, you know, I’m not going to, I’m not going to allow certain things that take my time or energy, or make me feel bad. And I think a lot of the times we struggle with that, because we out the thing I hear often is I don’t want to hurt people.e and really wanted to see what the weak spots were at the time I was doing collateral design, really only logos here and there, things like that. But what I realized was that you needed the full picture, right, the full brand in order to actually see success with design. And so that’s when I got into branding and rebranding.


I don’t want to hurt someone by putting my boundary. And that’s the thing. We can’t control someone else’s emotions or how they react to our boundary. The only thing that we can control is our own actions and reactions. And oftentimes when we put that boundary, and we and they don’t respect the boundary, it comes with a consequence. And a lot of people are afraid to hold on to their consequences. So what happens is we’ll set a boundary like I will no longer answer emails past 7pm, right, because that’s family time. That’s dinner time. So you set that boundary. But here come you have your you have your email on your phone, and here comes a client saying like, Oh my gosh, like, I need you to answer this question right there. It’s like a sense of urgency. So you almost feel like, oh my gosh, I want to serve this client like she’s going through something. They’re going through something


I need to answer that. So you start answering your emails past 7pm. So what this tells that person is, it’s okay to, to, oh, that boundary that she put, it’s not that serious, it’s okay. Because she’s going to just like ignore it, you know. And so what happens over time, it’s okay if we do it once, but then over time, it brings the wrong message that our time and energy can be interrupted by the outside external worlds. And so then that creates a this need to constantly be on. And so that’s just kind of an example of like how someone breaks their boundaries, or doesn’t have a consequence in place for when people are trying to get into their their own time and space that they have, you know, put aside for family friends, for Meantime, wherever, whatever necessity that they have in their life, or whatever priority they have during that time. And so I find that a lot of the times we don’t create these boundaries, because of that feeling of guilt that happens after


you know, and guilt is such a normal emotion to feel it’s actually normal for you to feel guilt after it means you’re empathetic about it, you feel you know what that impact of what you’re doing to that other person. But ultimately, you are putting yourself first because it’s going to make you a better, you know, Coach, a better therapist, a better business owner, because you are saying, like, I am trying to show you that putting these boundaries can ultimately help you have a good balance in your work life. But we forget that as business owners, because we wear all the hats and you know, I sometimes I envy, you know, people who are eight to five, because they do have that, like good separation of time. And so when we don’t go into entrepreneurship, we’re thinking about our business 24/7, we are const because we’re the ones, whatever we say whatever risk we take, it’s on us, right? If our business doesn’t thrive, It’s On Us. It’s On Us to take those risks on us to put those boundaries. So we tend to over give and overcompensate because of that sense of uncertainty. Because we ultimately want to gain control. But I think it’s our our pursuit for control is what actually creates a loss of control, because we’re not actually allowing things to happen. Just like they have to happen, you know, some things are just like, you can’t dictate how something is going to happen. Not even a launch. Sometimes there’s so much uncertainty,


there’s a lot of things that you’re you have to sit okay with as a business owner. And so if we don’t allow ourselves the space to just be and recognize that our sense of being is just as important as our sense of doing, then we can create this.


Basically this just like strive to constantly be working and go go go without setting those boundaries. So yeah, I think it’s like, if we don’t set those boundaries, we don’t have space for creativity and No, no space to actually do the work that we that we want to do. I’ve seen it so many times with clients that they’re like, I you know, I lowered my rate. I’ve seen that I lowered my rate. And I just like,


talk to me about the process. Like why did you lower your rate, like what was happening? Because sometimes it could be a scarcity mentality, right? Maybe we have patterns of our childhood that, you know, struggled with money, we didn’t have enough money. And so now as we sit in our entrepreneur hat, we have those same reactions to people because we just want business. So we’re we relax in our boundary, and we don’t


fight for it. We don’t say, oh, you know what? No, this is, this is my rate. And this is a reflection of what’s going to benefit you. And, you know, here’s a smaller package that may fit your budget. Instead, we say, Okay, I’ll work with you, I’ll lower my rate. And then you end up getting in with a client who might not be ideal, because since the beginning, they didn’t value your price, they didn’t value the benefit that you were going to give to them, instead of what they valued is that you were able to lower it, you know, and so then that creates, you know, this this pursuit of not having ideal, ideal clients, and then you’ll feel more drained and you know, all the things so it’s like a spiral, like if we don’t set our boundaries now, it can create all these things that we don’t want to happen. And we think psycho Yeah, no, yeah, absolutely. It’s not going to help us boundaries. You know, it is everything like when it comes to doing the work, delegating to a team, being authentic to yourself, how often do we fall into this trap of not doing what we love or


trying to


chase the right strategy in business. And all in I find clients like I’m tired, I’m like, I’m tired of people telling me this is a strategy for me this is for that. And because they do not have a sense of self, they do not allow themselves to sit in their emotions, and allow themselves to, you know, feel confident in their decision and knowing that sometimes their decision may lead to making a mistake. But it’s those mistakes that are going to allow us to grow and allow us to, you know, take other risks, because we are resilient. So I think a lot of the times we don’t, we don’t recognize that we’re, we’re constantly seeking for other people, to give us the answers that are within us, because nobody is going to have the same patterns of behavior, the same childhood experiences, the new and so your life, the way you do life, and the way you do business is going to look very different from each person. So I always caution people, when they’re trying to buy a service from some another service provider or a course that it really that they really sit with it and say, Is this what I need at this moment? Or am I just trying to, um, am I just trying to put a bandage on something that I haven’t worked on? Right? Like the mindset work the the inner work, right? Because that course might not be that coach might not be the solution. You know, it might be that you actually have to sit with your with with what happened, you know, all the things, all the patterns and all the self sabotage Riley, there’s there’s patterns there. Um, so yeah, I feel like that was a long winded quit, you know, and so good.


Yeah, yeah. So I think it’s like, super important for us to understand that boundaries are essential for entrepreneurship, oh, boundaries, boundaries, boundaries, boundaries, they are our favorite b word over here, coaches and company. And if you’ve been a part of our community for any length of time, then you know this. And for it specifically within our company, we strive to make it easy for our customers to communicate those boundaries in the form of as you know, written contracts, right. But it doesn’t stop there. Having it in writing is important. That’s step one. But enforcing those boundaries and practicing those boundaries is the next step. And that is something that we hear from our community members on a regular basis is how do I continue to enforce these boundaries? How do I approach this just difficult conversation? Is it simply pointing to the contract? Yes, that’s part of it. But do you have any tips for those that are finding themselves having to reinforce and, and communicate those boundaries to either clients or team members? Or maybe it is a spouse or partner that they’re having to communicate those boundaries to and reinforce those boundaries, too. So what is my question for you, Monica, is? How do we approach these difficult conversations? And do you have any tips for that?




We approach them knowing that it’s going to feel wrong, it’s gonna feel so uncomfortable, you’re probably gonna have a lot of emotions about why you shouldn’t be entering this conversation, how this conversation is going to go, you will not know how it’s gonna go, the only thing that you can be sure of is how you enter the conversation. So if it’s about a contract, maybe it’s a client, who you’ve put on your contract that you only take Voxer messages from Monday through Friday, from eight to three, but that person keeps boxing after you. You have to also sit with like, how am I not respecting my boundary? Because it often is like, how are we not respecting it? How can we enforce it if we don’t respect it, ourselves? So first, think of that, look at that. And that doesn’t mean that you can’t just because you don’t reinforce and that doesn’t mean you can’t have a conversation. I always have that conversation with clients where they’re like, Well, I don’t reinforce it. So now I can’t say anything about it. Like, I can’t call them out. No, you can’t. You have to also acknowledge where you did wrong, and how you’re going to continue to reinforce and it could be like, you know, I’ve noticed that, you know, you continuously send me boxer messages past the time, is that the time that works best for you, you know, I just want you to know that I typically don’t take those messages at that time. So I will always respond to you within the and then reinforce the statement in the contract right from eights of no Monday to Friday, from eight to three, I’m going to you know, send those boxer messages. I have, you know, in the past, you know, message you pass this time, and it was because it felt like you really needed it. But for me, it’s important that I keep these boundaries and I recognize where I did wrong, where I gave you the wrong impression that I would be available. And I think that’s important to recognize where you weren’t wrong in those boundaries and letting them know Okay, from here on now, if you do not if you


You can send me messages pass, but just know, I will not respond to them until the time stated in the contract moving forward, you know, and so having something like that in place and giving them, you know, consequences. So what happens if you don’t answer their box or message and they’re not emailing you, they’re now calling you. Okay? The consequence can be that after a while, we’re gonna end this contract, right? And, and I love that you even you know, in all of your contracts you put away of like, hey, at any point, I can terminate this contract. At any point, if you are not abiding by these rules. By these standards, I have a choice to break that contract, and you do, there’s no amount of money that is going to keep you in a contract. You got to think about your time, your energy, your space, your peace, if it doesn’t protect your peace, then it’s not good for you in the long run.


Yeah, it’s gotta go. And so reinforcing those boundaries with a family member with a spouse. It’s also a seeing, like, when I put this boundary, like, how did it make you feel, tell me like, what’s going on? And like, what feels hard to respect my boundary? Because you also want to know, like, well, I didn’t know that this that was serious, or I didn’t know you were doing that, right, they’re gonna come from a place of maybe you didn’t communicate your boundaries, you know, correctly, or in a way that resonated with them. So it’s important when we say, Okay, well, let’s, let’s circle back in on this, like I need, whether it be a spouse, let’s just say you told your spouse, from eight to three, I work on my business. And so that means I can’t have you knocking on my door, like showing me this tick tock that you want me to see, like, I need I need from a to three, I need those boundaries, to like, I need that time and space, or just let me know ahead of time, you know, text me, so that I know, I can tell you, Hey, I’m not available or am available, right? It’s important that we communicate those things, because also boundaries, they have to change in the season that you’re in, it’s not just like set in stone, I work from eight to three, there are going to be some seasons where you might not have the energy to work during those hours, you might change your hours. And so okay to communicate those. But you also have to allow the people that you set these boundaries with that they’re going to make mistakes, and they might not, you know, reinforce them because they’re not as important to them. As you as they’re as important to you. It’s going to take time for them to learn that the change the switch, right. So I always say it’s not impossible to change your boundaries. But you have to give grace to the person as they’re, as you’re communicating new boundaries, as you’re reinforcing, as you’re telling them what the consequence is. And consequences don’t have to be negative. You know, I, they don’t have to be negative consequences. It could be, you know, if you don’t, if, if you don’t answer that email, like if I, if you send me an email, I’m just not going to answer it. I’m just going to answer it the next day, it doesn’t have to be like a negative or like, I’m going to terminate your contract type of consequence. It could be baby steps towards, you know, the big consequence. The one we’re like, Hey, we’re gonna cut ties, this is not serving both of us, you know, or, Hey, it sounds like you need someone who has more of that dedicated time for you, you know, so maybe it is increasing the package, or it’s right, like, so there’s also a space for you to get value out of your time, right? So if it is, the person’s constantly sending you emails, and they’re in a lower package in your coaching program, or whatever, then maybe it is, hey, you know, I find you that it sounds like you need more support. And so this is a package that I have you on? This is a package that I think you know, would serve you best. So let me know. I like that. I like that. Like you want to go ahead. Oh, thank you. Yes, I want to I want to emphasize something that you mentioned, Monica, because it’s, it’s so important. And I think there it can be something that a lot of people miss the mark on. And that is, we certainly want to respect our own boundaries. We want to honor our own boundaries. And I think in doing so we respect ourselves and we honor ourselves. And by having others do the same and requesting that others do the same. That in turn is honoring us and respecting us. Here’s the key though is you can’t expect others to do so if you fail to communicate those boundaries. And again, you can communicate those boundaries in writing. If it’s a professional relationship. Having that in a written contract. You can revisit those boundaries and verbalize them during an onboarding call. And then as you work together and as your relationship blossoms and grows and transforms over time, re communicating those revisiting those boundaries and checking in with them yourself in with those boundaries that you had.


that prior and making sure that they still reflect the boundaries that you wish to have in place right now. And if they are different now, and if things have changed in the season, restructuring them and re communicating them, because we can’t be upset with others, with our clients, with our teammates, with our partners and friends, for not respecting our boundaries, if we fail to communicate them, nobody out here is a mind reader, y’all, nobody is going to be able to read your mind and know what it is that you that you desire that you request that you require in your business. And in your life. If you do not communicate those things to them, you are in the best position to be your own advocate.


And we’ve got an app.


Absolutely 100% agree with everything you say. And just like, you know, just like when you work with contracts, like just when you send them a new contract, this is the same thing. Like if you change anything, your contract you’re restating, you know, the new changes, you got to give them time to acknowledge these changes. Because even when you’re setting a boundary or changing a boundary, you’re changing the terms and conditions. And this person is used to a certain type of level of interaction with you. And so when you’re communicating in a new boundary, we’re trying to reinforce something that you have not reinforced yourself, it’s going to take time for that person to grasp it. Right, we’re not in the business of cutting people off, we want to work with them, we want to be able to create an environment where both feel safe to communicate things, you know, and then you also have to recognize when maybe they are not in a space where they want to communicate with you where they want to listen. And that is when we may need to enforce the consequence a little more, right? Whether that be the written contract, reinforcing that again, you know, resending them the contract, making sure that you are organized. Like, I think like when we have an organized space and organized mind, even when it comes to contracts, that we’re able to, you know, and even you revisiting this contract, because sometimes it could feel very easy to like not remember something that you put in a contract, and then not reinforcing your boundary, right? When it comes to like working with clients, with family. How is encouraged like, write down what your values are? What do you value the most is a time with family? Is it freedom to be your most authentic self? Is it is it a value is achievement, so that your boundaries are actually tied to your values, your goals are tied to your values, because this is going to keep you forcing them, you know, like reinforcing them. Like, you know that when you are in a space where you spend time with family, you feel good. Would you know you’re in a space where you’re, you’re spending time with your family, and you’re checking your phone, and it’s not quality time that you want to spend with your family, then you that’s going to feel like you’re disconnected from your your values, you’re not going to feel good about it, you’re going to feel drained, and it’s not gonna serve you, your clients or your family.


You know, good, so important. Oh, absolutely. I think I think operating from a place of alignment with one’s values is the, if not the absolute game changer. I mean, in so many different areas of business, we did a, at a retreat I was at earlier this year, we did a values exercise, my friend who is also a therapist, Tiffany, she led the exercise. And she I think she just googled list of values. And she pulled up this list, I was like 100 values and just read through the list. All of us that were there, we wrote down the values that were read aloud that resonated with us that we felt connected to you. And at the end, you had a list that was obviously shorter than the original list. And then from there, you select the five that you feel are the most important to you. And that really provides you with sort of like a home base, right? Like, let me return to this. When I feel like I’m acting out of alignment when I feel like there’s a disconnect within me and between myself as an individual and my actions, whether it is in life or in business. Coming back to that having that set of values is is definitely I mean, that changes the game for sure. As far as where do we operate from? What is the foundation that I am going to derive these boundaries from right if you’re kind of like, well, I know I want boundaries. I know I need boundaries, but I don’t really know where to start or what to do. So do you have any tips for those that are like I don’t even know where to begin when it comes to creating or enforcing boundaries in my life or business? Yeah, I think it’s in you know, where do you feel the most uncomfortable with whether that be clients, whether that be family, whether that be yourself, right like sometimes it’s so hard for us to we say that we want to have a morning routine, but yet we don’t reinforce


For the things that we want to do, we say we want to take care of ourselves. But yet, we don’t do anything to take care of ourselves. So first thing, identify the categories in your life, where you find yourself having very uncomfortable emotions, maybe there’s one area, maybe there is more anxiety in that area, because that can be an a strong indicator of there, there. There needs to be something there. Our emotions, tell us so much. Our body tells us a lot too, right? So recognizing, when do you feel like you’re so tired? Right? Like, at the end of the day? Do you just feel super tired? like spending time with family? Does that drain you? Right? That would mean that’s an indicator, like, Oh, God, something’s up, something is up. Without one client, you don’t feel as good. Or you constantly feel with that one client, you need to answer their emails, that is a indicator, well, let me explore that. Because there might be some blogs to bounce to boundary setting there. And so a therapist can help your coach coach who is really known in like, mindset and boundary setting can help you identify those blogs, that can you know, that you that you need to unpack in order to set those boundaries, because we come with our patterns, our childhood experiences, our patterns, our family dynamics that shaped the way we communicate, or show emotion, or you know, how they how sometimes the dynamics or early experiences early relationships can dictate how we show up now. So it’s important that we recognize those things recognize those relationships, where we find it hard to, to be ourselves to write, like, even writing, what is it about me that makes me unique? What is it about me that I love? And in all the areas or all the relationships in my life? Am I able to show up that way? Who do I not show up that way with? And why? They question your motives as to why you don’t


show up authentically as yourself with those people. Right? Because that can be an indicator of, wow, these people, there’s something about them that I don’t feel comfortable sharing their boundary, and maybe they made it where they push back. Here’s the thing, when we set a boundary, there might be something that we call pushback, meaning someone is not respecting them. Someone’s saying like, like, if you say, Hey, you hurt my feelings, you know, I really felt hurt by what you said. And they said, Oh, I didn’t mean it that way. You know, it’s a joke. You know, I’m always joking, right? Or I don’t know, if you heard that, like tick tock with, is it? Who is it? Kim Kardashian? Or is it? What’s the Courtney Courtney Kardashian and


she is telling one of her sisters, like, I just won’t say those jokes to you, because you don’t take them the way you don’t take them as a joke. And we can clearly see there that person saying like, that’s not funny, like that’s hurtful. But she is using pushback and saying like, no, maybe you’re just taking it the wrong way. And that is where it’s a clear identity it, we can clearly identify that as pushback. So it’s allowing yourself to say, hey, no, I’m not. It’s not that I understand. Like you, you say it’s a joke. But for me, this is how I’m seeing it. So can we discuss like, how can we compromise Right? Like, how can you? How can I help you understand how I’m feeling in this moment? You know, and sometimes you’re gonna continue to have pushback, they continue to give you pushback, that’s when you say, Okay, then I’m going to need to distance myself from this because I can’t continue, you know, engaging in this relationship, if you feel like it’s not okay, to respect that, that hurts me. And just clearly saying, You’re not saying, you know, we, I don’t want to, you know, work on this relationship. You’re saying, like, I’ve done everything that I could possibly do. And now it’s your turn to decide if you want to respect those boundaries. You don’t want to that’s okay. I need to distance myself and, and it can be easier with certain people. I know for me, like, personally, when I started setting boundaries, it was really hard for family because I came from a family culture that was very mesh very, you know, we all had if you didn’t think, like the same way as everybody else, you were an outsider. And so I had to really explain to my family how things made me feel or how when they would say something, or if they would it be okay for my for family to make jokes about like weight and things like that. And that was not okay with me. So identifying those things, and saying, like, it’s not okay with me, it makes me feel this way. Like, I know, you’re saying this out of maybe a term of endearment, but it doesn’t, you know, I don’t take it that way. You know, so being very clear about how something makes you feel and you know, it like in your body, your mind, you know, when you have this uneasy feeling and so I think if you’re starting off you’re waiting trying to figure out how to


treat them. first figure out, how does your body feel with different people in your relationships? How does your body feel when engaging in different sides of your business? And start questioning that, that and maybe that’s where you can start putting those boundaries in place?


Amazing. I think that’s such such solid advice, and certainly


questioning ourselves as far as, am I doing this for me? Or am I doing this to please others? Because I think that’s a very common thing that we as women experience in life and business, right, certainly. And I’ve had those situations as well, that you’ve described culturally within our family, you know, there, there are certain things, certain topics, certain jokes, that may be acceptable, or maybe they’ve just been normalized in this context, and they need to be called out. And if you’re feeling resistance, and calling that out, even though it makes you uncomfortable question that feeling Why am I feeling that resistance? And is it is it resistance that is trying to keep me safe? From an uncomfortable conversation? Because if so, that uncomfortable conversation just may be the bridge to a better relationship with that person, whether it is your client, or your family member. So I really appreciate you touching on that Monica. And I feel like there’s so much that we can unpack in this topics, I’m sure we’ll have you back here to share more of your brilliance with our community. But my final question for you is, what would you like to leave our audience with? What is your big message to entrepreneurs? That Are you looking to take better care of ourselves that are looking to establish stronger boundaries, to ultimately care for care for oneself? What is your big message?


I think for me, my biggest message is to


create a space for yourself where you feel so connected to your most true authentic self, that you can drop the mask of who you believe you have to be for everyone else. And just believe in being your most authentic self, allowing yourself that you to know and recognize that you deserve that. You deserve time, you deserve attention, you deserve nourishment. And so saying yes to yourself, whether that be going to therapy, or saying yes to that coaching program that is going to help you create those shifts, and allow you to recognize your self worth and value. And knowing that that that your self worth and value is completely separate from what what you do, right? We are business owners, but we are also beautiful humans who feel have emotions, who make mistakes. And so it’s okay to create yourself the time and space and reach out for help, because so many of entrepreneurs don’t seek out that help. And that is why entrepreneurs are one of the highest populations that struggle with mental health illnesses. And we don’t talk about those things, depression, anxiety, isolation, loneliness, all these things, we don’t talk about them. So reach out for help, you know, allow yourself to have the space to for another human to hold that space for you. Because you deserve it just just as much as everybody else.


Thank you so much, Monica. I so appreciate you being here. Where can people connect with you?


Yeah, so people can connect with me on Instagram, it’s at @cafewithmonica. You can listen to the podcast, there is really something for everybody. I truly wanted that to be a space where anybody can go in and find the resource the story for them that can resonate most. And yeah, so if you’re in Texas, I would love to work with you. I love working with an entrepreneurs who are people of color. And I’m also having a workshop in December, where we specifically help you create and set boundaries for the new year things that are going to be intentional and resonate with you we’re going to have a q&a It’s gonna be kind of like a coaching style. So I’m really excited for that. This is the first time I’m doing a live workshop with my community.


Yes, so be on the lookout for that it’s gonna be tickets will be for the workshop will be on sale in like the last week of November and the live workshop will be that first week of December. Amazing. Well, we’re gonna link to everything in the caption slash description of this video, depending on where you’re watching or listening to this again, thank you so much, Monica, for joining me, and we’ll talk soon.


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